towbartone, on 12 August 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:
As someone who has been on the front line so to speak I can name at least a dozen people who i would happily have rid the world of.
In yesterdays time maybe it was a bit risky to top a lot of people as history has proven them innocent.
However in todays high tech age it can be proven without any doubt that the person did commit the crime, in fact the criminal protection society (CPS) as they known in the force will not take a case to court unless you have over proven it.
Life should always have meant life and did until the youghurt knitters got their way, and that is the crux of the matter, the liberalists get what they want and always have a further agenda lined up, once they got rid of the death penalty they went for the life sentence being cut, 20 years, 20 years is not life, if you are 18 you will be out before you are 38 thats not life.
would I bring it back, I would volunteer to put the noose on and pull the leaver.
Anyone who says that we should not go back and its barbaric should spend five minutes in the company of those who have lost someone in this way, it not only takes one life but invariably ruins several more in the process.
It costs on average 80 thousand pounds to keep one of these scumbags in prison, and incidentally with more privileges than any of us get in a lifetime.
It costs about 2000 pounds to rid us of the scum forever, its a no brainer.
get rid of them and the more painful and drawn out the better.
If you disagree with me have a look at your kids, nieces, nephews, grandkids, or even your neighbours or friends kids and tell me what you would do if it was one of them.
Incidentally child murders were lower when we had the death penalty.
so, yes bring it back, bring it back now and give me a call i will happily oblige.
You have to look at the bigger picture in this instance - I'm not saying we shouldn't have the death penalty. I think ultimately - I'd be up for it.
But who governs it? There is ALWAYS corruption and the higher you go, the stronger and more prevalent it is. I wouldn't trust the current powers to govern this in a correct manner.
Also, what would it do to those who administer the deaths - Killing person on person, no matter what the've done, has to affect a person in some sort of way. There must be a feeling of regret and remorse or other darker emotions and thoughts. Someone who can end the life of another as a 9-5 and then go home to his wife and kids playing happy families is an unsettling and, to my mind, improbable thought. Something must click or snap or not be (or is as the case may be) there.
Finally, what will it do to us as a society? Will we become less forgiving? Less tolerant? Will we become sheep on a witch hunt? We have to be better than the criminals, there has to be clear daylight between us - Other wise we become a world of criminals cherry picking the rules as it suits.
All easy to say when atm - I agree. My point is, I'm not for, I'm not against. I just don't think it's as clear cut as people think.
I definitely don't agree the death should be painful and prolonged or an eye for an eye. That would make us just as bad as them - Death is more than enough when you actually stop and consider it's totality - And if there is more (I.e Heaven and hell) well then the torture is there without us becoming monsters destined for the same in the process.
Personally, I say we cut a deal with the Russians - Brand criminals with cow-prod style tags based on the severity of their crimes, send them all to a baron land of Russia - No help, no training, no aid. Randomly drop them from a plane wearing basic clothes and nothing else. If they make their way to civilization, pretty unlikely, then well done, we can try to reform them and reintegrate them into society (thought they'll never be fully a part of it due to their branding), they offend again in any way that causes pain of distress to another human being - We ship them right back to Russia for a second term.
I've just thought of that so I'm sure there are many things to consider.